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    • CommentAuthorHCLcoasters
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2010 edited
     
    Last year, around this time, there was an amazing contest on Coastersims that I'm sure many of you remember...

    It was called the 3 Blind Mice Challenge.

    The 3 blind mice challenge was one of the best No limits contests ever conceived. Nolimits-Exchange has decided to bring back the challenge for a third time. As most of you know from participating in the past, the rules are simple. The point of the contest is to make the best ride like every competition, but there's a catch. The contestants are joined into teams of three and they each have to make a part of a ride. You might be assigned to Trackwork, Supports, or Theming, you choose. Even then, there is yet another catch, none of the teammates actually know who is on their the team (hence the name of the challenge). Groups of three contestants will be randomly paired together to make a team. I will be judging the contest along with two other people who have yet to be picked. One of the great things about this contest is the variety of rides that are made because there are minimal specifications.

    Here are some examples of past coasters:
    Let the Right One In
    The Core
    Tengu


    If you would like to join please write whether you would like to be a Track designer, Supporter, or Themer. Also list your second choice along with your email address (whispered though) so I can give you the track when your turn comes to build. I will be releasing more information about the contest, including assignments and time restraints, in two weeks on February 15.

    Dates----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Track: February 15-March 1
    Supports: March 2- March 16
    Themeing: March 17-March 31
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I've been working in conjunction with Matthew and Ed Boxer to make this the best contest it can be.

    Sign ups begin now!

    Participants

    1. mgizozlodu
    2. CPF
    3. mrfeeny
    4. BBSpeed26
    5. Mathew Davies
    6. hyyyper
    7. bader
    8. Griffonluv
    9. PmLondon
    10. A113
    11. zampano
    12. Jetpulse
    13. SkyLindLar
    14. TheNumerator
    15. Buster
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    No template?

    BTW, you picked one of the worst times to do this. Most Coaster Crazy Members here are probably going to be in the No Limits Tournament. Therefore, your numbers could be drastically lower. For the same reason, I will not join.

    Just wanted to give you a heads up.
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      CommentAuthorA113
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2010
     
    Will not, or CANnot? As in, would you plan on entering in the future? If HCL moves the contest date
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    ^Depends on the circumstances. If I have the time than I probably will.
    • CommentAuthorCPF
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2010
     
    I will join. I will want to be a supporter, but if I have to I will do track.

    Just because I am a noob here, it doesn't mean that I am a noob to Nolimits. I am Cedar Point Fan anywhere else.

    Though if there is any forum activity requirement, that is fine by me.
    • CommentAuthorHCLcoasters
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2010 edited
     
    To devilsrules... What's bad with a little competition ;) I'm completely aware of the competition at CC.com
    Also, why would I give out a template if I want your imagination to run freely. You'll soon find that the coaster crazy contests can be rather restrictive. In the past this contest has historically been run template free. I can however post a blank NL file if that would put your mind at ease.

    And just to let you know, I've gotten a few entries already whispered to me so even if it looks like no one has joined... they have.

    Also, each contestant will have a very sizable amount of time so I wouldn't worry about time problems. You'll have a few weeks to get your section done.
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    We already have 3 teams. Keep the entries coming in!
    • CommentAuthorOnjin
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2010
     
    I would love to join, but, I've already started the NLT 2010 at CC.com. I'll keep an eye out for this. Or I'll have to set some time aside for next time you do one. Sorry.
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    It's really not that hard to do both guys.. You can set a week (max) aside for this from NLT.
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      CommentAuthorA113
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2010
     
    NLT's stupid. Sign me up for Track Building.
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    First, A113, do you have a second choice? I know your email so you shouldn't worry about that.

    And I'm now looking for two experienced judges. I will choose you if you can show me adequate proof that you are good at NL or have a high standards and know what you're talking about.
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      CommentAuthorA113
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2010
     
    Second choice.. hmm. Theming.
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      CommentAuthorDr.gumbo
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2010
     
    I took part in the last on over at Coastersims before it went bust. Doubt I will have the eagerness or the time nowadays but I do suggest that anyone who can partake to do so; its great fun and the results are fantastic.
    • CommentAuthorzampano
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2010
     
    I'm in, for Track work if possible. Second choice would be theming. I know I haven't uploaded some stuff yet, but I had a long time off no limits, and am now into newton 2 for a few months. And I'm sure the results are not bad. I may release a coaster next week, although it was originally made using the fvds.
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    Zampano, can you post your email address so I can give you the tack when it's your turn.
    • CommentAuthorJetPulse
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2010
     
    May I suggest that you set the times when each part of the coaster will have to be done so that people can see if they have commitments during a particular period. Also, this way people can try to keep their schedules free during their time period. I would like to participate but until I know the dates, I'll have to pass because I don't know if I will have conflicts during the working times.
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    It's normally a week to do your part.
    • CommentAuthorEd Boxer
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2010 edited
     
    I believe the point was that some people will need to know dates in order to determine if they can commit themselves to the challenge. Might be a good idea to set out a timeline.

    Track development: M/D - M/D (e.g. Feb 22 - March 15)
    Supports: M/D - M/D
    Environment: M/D - M/D
    Judging: M/D - M/D
    Announcment of winner(s): M/D
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    I was actually going to give two weeks to do each part of the ride.

    Track: February 15-March 1
    Supports: March 2- March 16
    Themeing: March 17-March 31

    And then I'll announce everything sometime after that.
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    I've always wanted to be in something like this!
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      CommentAuthorJcoasters
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2010
     
    Hey! I have a few questions...

    1.) Who decides the name?
    2.) Does the track-builder make hills and do terraforming?
    3.) Wouldn't it be better if the supporter were last, so he could build his supports around the theming?
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    I concur with Jcoasters' #3 question/suggestion. It would make more sense to have the theming be second and the supporting last.
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    Ehh.... I miiggghhhttt not be able to compete. Considerin the tournament over at CC.com, but don't count me out yet.
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    Posted By: JcoastersHey! I have a few questions...

    1.) Who decides the name?
    2.) Does the track-builder make hills and do terraforming?
    3.) Wouldn't it be better if the supporter were last, so he could build his supports around the theming?


    1) Themer
    2) No, that's the themer's job
    3) The supports give the person a say on the terraforming/theming. For example, instead of supporting all the way to the ground, the supporter can go until say 50 feet, then the themer would HAVE to raise the land to that point. It's actually quite fun and worked perfectly imo for Let The Right One In.
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    ^ Griffonluv is correct for all 3 questions.
    • CommentAuthorbader
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2010 edited
     
    Posted By: Griffonluv
    Posted By: JcoastersHey! I have a few questions...
    ...
    3.) Wouldn't it be better if the supporter were last, so he could build his supports around the theming?

    ....
    3) The supports give the person a say on the terraforming/theming. For example, instead of supporting all the way to the ground, the supporter can go until say 50 feet, then the themer would HAVE to raise the land to that point. It's actually quite fun and worked perfectly imo for Let The Right One In.


    Wouldn't that be too restricting for the themer?
    if something like ... AERIS was to be done for example
    Remember theming is not only terraforming.
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    No, it's really not that difficult. If you think you'd have a hard time making it work, I'd sign up for a different position. It's the way for all 3 builders to chip in their own originality.

    And of course it's not only terraforming. Whatever the supporter does will probably not affect what the themer can/cannot do with 3ds and such.
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      CommentAuthorA113
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
     
    To elaborate on Griff's last comment, HCl was the supporter for The Core, and the theming was just done to how he wanted it, not how HCL made the supports.
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    I'm just telling everyone in advanced, you will be judged for teamwork so capitalize on each others work. I don't want a remake of what torch did to me last year. (Curse those tunnels!)
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    Posted By: A113To elaborate on Griff's last comment, HCl was the supporter for The Core, and the theming was just done to how he wanted it, not how HCL made the supports.


    Which you should not do.
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      CommentAuthorA113
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
     
    yeah the lift supports were kinda pointless HCL with the tunnel
    • CommentAuthorbader
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010 edited
     
    Posted By: GriffonluvNo, it's really not that difficult. If you think you'd have a hard time making it work, I'd sign up for a different position.

    It is not a matter of difficulty... I am talking logic here.

    Posted By: A113 the lift supports were kinda pointless HCL with the tunnel

    Exactly what I was talking about. Some of the effort was wasted !
    I am not saying we should change the order... just thinking out loud.
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      CommentAuthorA113
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
     
    Still as team work, you should abide to the decisions made by each team-mate. If the supports are made above the ground, fix it. If the supporter stinks and supported it like a generic ride, find a way to theme it while satisfying the supports.

    This is the point of the challenge, which makes this a great contest.
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    One more week to sign up.
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      CommentAuthorJcoasters
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2010
     
    One more question:

    If your the themer, and you want to have custom footers, than would you remove [if alredy in place] the default footers and add your own?
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      CommentAuthorA113
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2010
     
    Only two more contestants and we're set by the looks of it!
    • CommentAuthorzampano
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2010
     
    Oh, I see "Buster" in the sign up list.. interesting.
    • CommentAuthorBuster
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2010
     
    I'm just acting as a replacement.
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      CommentAuthorA113
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th 2010
     
    So who starts?
    • CommentAuthormgizozlodu
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th 2010
     
    Yeah seriously the day is half over already when are you gonna tell us who's doing what and what the criteria are so we can start planning.
    • CommentAuthormgizozlodu
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th 2010
     
    Hello?
    • CommentAuthorBBSpeed26
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th 2010
     

    Beuller... Beuller... Beuller... Beuller...

    • CommentAuthorHCLcoasters
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th 2010 edited
     
    I've been gone for the weekend and I got back a little late but I have everything you need right here.

    Dates----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Track: February 15-March 1
    Supports: March 2- March 16
    Themeing: March 17-March 31

    Assignments-------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Track:
    mgizozlodu
    mrfeeny
    BBspeed26
    A113
    skylindlar

    Suppports:
    CPF
    Matthew Davies
    hyyyper
    jetpulse
    TheNumerator

    Themer:
    bader
    Griffonluv
    pmlondon
    Buster
    zampano
    Like I said earlier you will learn your teams when the contest is over.

    To the track creators.......
    You have until midnight on March 1 to create a track worthy of this contest. You may use any type of track and your ride can go anywhere on the building plane. Tools are allowed but Keep your ride realistic because it will be graded down if the g forces are unacceptable. Keep your track white, don't make any changes to the terrain, and don't support your ride because your teammates will be in charge of this. Once you are done email your ride to HCLcoasters@gmail.com. They will be passed off to your teammate on the day their segment begins. Please, don't talk about your ride.

    I'll be sending out an email to all of the track builders tonight just to let them know they should start.

    a note to all.......
    Do not talk about your ride. If you find that you need to drop out please email me at HCLcoasters@gmail.com and we can work something out. Just remember that if you do drop out you'll be letting your teammates down.

    Don't hesitate to ask any questions.

    Once again, when your done email your ride to HCLcoasters@gmail.com

    Track creators, you may begin building now.
    • CommentAuthorbader
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
     
    Great.. but isn't there one Themer missing? Aren't there 5 teams?
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      CommentAuthorXpress
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
     
    Eh, I <i>guess</i> I can fill in for a themer if there's enough need, or if someone else doesn't want to..

    BTW, HCL, what do you consider realistic forces?
    • CommentAuthorHCLcoasters
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010 edited
     
    I had to change the assignments because of 2 problems. The list is now updated.

    changes:

    Skylindlar is now a track builder
    Jetpulse is now a supporter
    zampano is now a themer


    @ Xpress I would consider around 5.2 to be maximum for vertical g's and -1.6 to be the minimum. For lat's it depends on the ride not that it doesn't for the vertical g's. I'm open to suggestions though and if you go a bit over those you won't be graded down. I'm really only talking about obviously bad g's.
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      CommentAuthorXpress
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
     
    So, considering rides can exceed 6g (I.E. Tower Of Terror), it would be acceptable, if only for a quick spike?
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    I would personally say that's a bit much, but if it's for the correct ride type then sure go for it.
    • CommentAuthorGriffonluv
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2010
     
    Xpress, the rules are how they stand. If you don't like the contest then quit. Stop trying to outsmart everyone with the wits you obviously don't have.
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      CommentAuthorXpress
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2010 edited
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: Griffonluv</cite>Xpress, the rules are how they stand. If you don't like the contest then quit. Stop trying to outsmart everyone with the wits you obviously don't have.</blockquote>

    I wasn't challenging the not-set-in-stone rules, I was merely asking what would be acceptable forces. And if all you're going to do is be a grumpy kid who just got home from school, then take it somewhere else.

    And last time I checked, I wasn't in the contest ;)

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