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      CommentAuthorEd Boxer
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
     
    Xpress, looking at other ratings Squeekzila has given, he consistently rates lower than most people but he is consistent with his ratings.
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      CommentAuthorXpress
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
     
    ^Yeah, I noticed that. It's like he just doesn't care, and thinks nobodies track are worth it :/
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    Maybe he just doesn't care for the tracks...I haven't been overly impressed with almost all tracks over the last year or two so I can see where he's coming from. Maybe he should justify what he has to say better, as I try to do when I rate, but I don't think his numbers are completely invalid.
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      CommentAuthorXpress
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2009
     
    I've seen a lot of people saying that my track, Pulse, fails tunnel test.

    The thing is, yes, there are supports inside the tunnels, however the supports in question are well below the riders reach. If you fully tunnel the entire track, then yes, there are tunnel to tunnel hits, but there is no track that goes into other tunnel sections. Nothing is in the riders reach.
    • CommentAuthorSauron
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2009
     
    HotSauce2009 gave me this rating for my track Magnus:

    "T- had a very good rythem and had well paced inverstions and turns.

    A- fast but at the same time packed with fun.

    O- i have given this a low score becuase there is not really any coasters like this !! BUT !! thats not a bad thing i thing so dont be angry with my choice but i think your coaster is very unique. so in a good way its not original.

    Overall the only thing i can think to make it better is work on smoothing a tiny bit and add scenary. i dont know how good you are at 3ds but if you could add buildings and rocks.. to make close calls and just more of a theme to the ride it could be a mind blowing experince.. it almost feels like a Very good disney coaster just without the themeing.

    Good job :) keep up the good work :) ....Ash...."

    The issue is with his originality rating. He gave me a 4.00 even though he said my coaster is very unique and that there aren't a lot of rides like it.

    scooterha gave me this rating for my ride Iron Man:

    "on the technical side of this ride the bt was smooth most of the ride accept for a couple of quick direction change elements in the ride, which is not a major problem for me in my creations i have the same trouble. the second to last zero g roll was a little rough and slow for me."

    Aside from the fact that it's a grammatical nightmare and difficult to understand, he didn't justify his scores thoroughly.
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      CommentAuthorRyder
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2009
     
    hey,

    ive had two ratings deleted recently, they both followed the BT AD OR format and were a decent length

    i wouldnt mind rewriting them if i had a decent reason but i dont even get told why
    • CommentAuthorPmLondon
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2009 edited
     
    Hello Mathew, I just fell on this rating :

    Rated 15 days, 21 hours, 40 minutes and 34 seconds ago by Voltolux

    Technical : 0.00, Adrenaline : 0.00, Originality : 0.00, Average : 0.00

    BT: i know its hard without an AHG tool but i do rate my coasters relative to everybody elses so i must mark you down for it, it was quite pumpy (i know why) but that could use some work anyway. the track was intresting, and i loved the cobra-lying-on-its-back-looking-at-the-ground-to-its-side roll.

    AD:very good, i loved the pace, and especially the sweeping turns hugging the terrain!

    OR: like you said, its maverick styled, but i have to say... its good, love what you did to it


    This came from Caballo Loco http://nolimits-exchange.com/coaster/165

    Voitolux has made a copy and paste of Ryder comments to add insult to injury.

    ________________________________________________________________________

    Same apply here, the rating was meant to be 10 for each category but it seems a bug put everything to Zero.

    Rated 13 days, 20 hours, 51 minutes and 43 seconds ago by Jayzz

    Technical : 0.00, Adrenaline : 0.00, Originality : 0.00, Average : 0.00

    COASTER EXCEPTIONNEL ! Je kiff sur tout les points, j' ai mis Dix a toute les notes même si le layout n' est pas ce qu' il de fait de plus original. J' aime tout, des coulerus au terraforming jusqu' au cartextures.
    Beau travail Julien pour iun caster d' une immense fluidité ! j' adore ! Même le petit Karpentis au début de la vidéo qui nous a bien fai trire :p TU POSTES AUND THE RING NOMDIDJOU !!!!! La ce sera la pemiere place assurée ! Tiens je vois qu' il a quand même quelques mebres de coasters world :P

    Bon moi je vais posté Tribal, je compte sur toi pour noté un max ;))))

    je t" ai mis la note maximal partout.Je vois aussi que tu as utilisés l( AHG. Tu aurias du aussi utiliser l' autoflanger ;ààà Rated 13 days, 20 hours, 51 minutes and 43 seconds ago by Jayzz

    Technical : 0.00, Adrenaline : 0.00, Originality : 0.00, Average : 0.00

    COASTER EXCEPTIONNEL ! Je kiff sur tout les points, j' ai mis Dix a toute les notes même si le layout n' est pas ce qu' il de fait de plus original. J' aime tout, des coulerus au terraforming jusqu' au cartextures.
    Beau travail Julien pour iun caster d' une immense fluidité ! j' adore ! Même le petit Karpentis au début de la vidéo qui nous a bien fai trire :p TU POSTES AUND THE RING NOMDIDJOU !!!!! La ce sera la pemiere place assurée ! Tiens je vois qu' il a quand même quelques mebres de coasters world :P

    Bon moi je vais posté Tribal, je compte sur toi pour noté un max ;))))

    je t" ai mis la note maximal partout.Je vois aussi que tu as utilisés l( AHG. Tu aurias du aussi utiliser l' autoflanger ;ààà
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      CommentAuthorEd Boxer
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2009 edited
     
    PmLondon - thanks for the head's up - both of those ratings have been removed.
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      CommentAuthorXpress
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2009 edited
     
    Wait a sec, if you put in 10/10/10, does it automatically revert your rating to 0's?

    Which means it doesn't add any number to your score..
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      CommentAuthorEd Boxer
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2009
     
    That happens when the person putting in the rating forgets to set the scores before they press the rate buttion (speaking from experience).
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      CommentAuthorEd Boxer
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2009
     
    Xpress, it does not revert to 0s if you put in 10s
    • CommentAuthorPmLondon
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2009
     
    And another one who forgot to rate before hitting the button.

    http://nolimits-exchange.com/coaster/195

    Rated 2 days, 15 hours, 27 minutes and 17 seconds ago by Robberrrrt

    Technical : 0.00, Adrenaline : 0.00, Originality : 0.00, Average : 0.00

    Het is echt jammer dat dit een packager bestand is, op de foto ziet het er zo mooi uit! Kan je niet alleen de baan maken in een track bestand? Op de foto ziet het er in ieder geval echt supermooi uit!

    Ga je alleen nog maar dingen maken met packager? Jammer


    And this one who took the comments from the previous rating :

    Rated 8 days, 6 hours, 36 minutes and 43 seconds ago by EzraSiegel

    Technical : 10.00, Adrenaline : 10.00, Originality : 2.50, Average : 7.50

    Wow. This is, by far, my favorite coaster on nolimits. The only problem is that it's a little too short ( but still good for a top hat coaster). I love how you made the mini-model of the coaster, the restaraunt, and the monorail. This must have taken a long time to build. I hope to see more AWESOME coasters like this. I also thought that you got a pretty good theme, along with it being completely custom.
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      CommentAuthorEd Boxer
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2009
     
    PmLondon - those are have been removed. Thanks again!
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      CommentAuthorXpress
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2009
     
    Buisy day today, eh Ed?
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      CommentAuthorEd Boxer
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2009
     
    Yeah, its keeping me awake! :')
    • CommentAuthorSauron
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2009 edited
     
    This one came from Ryder on my ride Patriot:

    "Technical : 6.50, Adrenaline : 7.00, Originality : 3.50, Average : 5.67

    BT: not bad, the double roll was fun and worked well. the loop didnt add much though. i cant rate high because of the lack of track. would like to see some curves.

    AD: good, if a little slow paced. it was fast enough, but not enough happened to make it seem like that

    OR: not really, ive seen these before, so very much below average"

    His BT section is completely erroneous. You can't downrate because you don't think there is enough track. That is why it's called building TECHNIQUE; how you built the ride is what counts. Besides, shuttle coasters have short tracks anyway. His OR section is also invalid because he said he has seen these before. I don't know of many Intamin loopers with a double zero-G roll and a vertical twisted spike. He should probably see the ratings I got for this ride at CoasterFuel to see what an educated rater says.
    • CommentAuthortoerti
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2009 edited
     
    Posted By: DC High HeatYour explanation of the rate shows me that you've taken a very subjective viewpoint on the ride, whereas objectiveness should be maintained. It shouldn't matter whether or not you like Silverstar and EGF...that's irrelevant. As a rater, you should instead say to yourself "well how well done is this layout *relative to similar rides done by the same company*?" and "do the forces exceed the boundaries created by the specific company?" To limit the designer to forces that have been tripled by several real rides of the style he was working with is unfair.


    I see your point but I personally think that only BT can be rated objectivly. To the point "how well a layout is done relative to similar rides" is for me as well a point that wents into BT. Or I will have to change Originality into Realism.
    But realism is only a point that should be rated instead of O for recreations.
    And if everyone would rate objective, we would only need one rating. Since all others would be the same then.
    If I would rate Originality they way you suggested I would have to rate down all tracks with trackelements that havent been seen on a real ride yet. So especially the fantasy style coasters would get very low O ratings.
    But I personally love rides with new unique elements (As long as they stay within limits),never before or seldom seen techniques (3D- , texture- or any other-work) to create special effects.
    Wouldnt it be boring to see always the same loops and corks and so on, just in another order???
    And I didnt downgrade the ride just because I do not love Silverstar or EGF. This was just to make clear these rides dont add alot to originality for me. Silverstar is high, fast and offers alot of airtime. But afterall it is a simple out and back track without any scenery interaction at all. It doesnt have any originality at all. EGF adds more to originality then.
    The only way this/my rating system could be 'prevented' would be to offer 3 categories where you can upload a ride:
    -Recreation (the track has to match the real one (I wouldnt and didnt on CS.com, rate a recreation unless I rode and know the track very well))
    -Realistic (the track would be rated by me just the way you suggested)
    -Fantasy (coasters that will never be built in real, because the costs would be to high due to heavy theming or unrealistic scenery (It still has to stay in physical limits))

    This is just my way to rate. My rating is just MY impression of the ride not the impression of everyone.

    -Toerti
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    I don't understand...you say for realistic rides (which is what I was commenting on) the track shouldn't be rated as I suggested, then went back and said it should. I'm not saying anything about new elements and such...I too love seeing them, as long as they're within the ride style. I'm saying, for example, you can't ask for a Maverick level of originality from a B&M hyper because that'd be completely unrealistic given the precedents established.

    When I was commenting on subjectivity I meant that a rater shouldn't say hey I like this ride type so I'm gonna rate your ride higher, or vice versa. The rater should ask himself what is the quality of the design in question, how much fun is it relative to real rides of that style, etc. Maybe that's not complete objectivity, but it's a lot better than introducing one's own opinions on similar real rides.

    You never commented on the force issue. What is your stand on that one?
    • CommentAuthorReal
    • CommentTimeSep 19th 2009
     
    I think if someones building a ride within a ride style it should be rated or seen as a "recreation of style". Because if you want to create a simple out and back its going to be absolutely killed on ratings though, IRL, those rides tend to rate rather high when done right. Just me personally I adjust my style to those 3 you mentioned Toerti with the 4th one being what I just mentioned because a lot of people now are replicating a particular style and being creative at the same time.

    Ill never markdown for a ride thats lacking scenery interaction or not enough creativity because theyve put in a bunch of effort recreating a particular style of coaster. Id never compare a GCI twister to a TGG out and back - its just not fair to either of them. Completely different rides.


    Again though, thats the beauty of the rate system. Where Toertis rate of an out and back will not be so good, mine will probably raise it to the average it should be at.
    • CommentAuthorTyler
    • CommentTimeSep 21st 2009
     
    This is on my new ride Bottle Rocket:

    Rated 1 hour, 1 minute and 39 seconds ago by Robberrrrt
    Technical : 5.00, Adrenaline : 7.50, Originality : 7.50, Average : 6.67

    Hmmm, op zich best een goede coaster, leuke plaatsing van inversies, maar ik ben bang dat ik mijn hoofd en armen kwijt ben door de supports...

    Which translates to
    Hmmm, in itself a pretty good coaster, nice placement of inversions, but I'm afraid I have lost my head and arms through the supports ...

    The ride 100% passes tunnel test, as is noted in the description.
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      CommentAuthorXpress
    • CommentTimeSep 21st 2009
     
    And I confirm, the ride passes tunnel test.
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      CommentAuthorEd Boxer
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    Tyler, that rating has been removed.
    • CommentAuthorTyler
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    Two more on Bottle Rocket...both containing markdowns for tools...
    • CommentAuthorReal
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    Im curious, bakerster, how can you acheive perfect transitions? If not with Newton (which is FVD's on steroids) how can you acheive "PERFECT" transitions?

    Im at a loss for words here...
    • CommentAuthorExtraxyz
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009 edited
     
    Posted By: TylerTwo more on Bottle Rocket...both containing markdowns for tools...


    If I were to rate I'd probably do the same.. the use of tools completely ruined the classic Schwarzkopf feeling on your ride =)
    • CommentAuthorTyler
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    So what am I supposed to do, make my curves non-circular???
    • CommentAuthorReal
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    Yea...so with tools you cant create a classic Schwarzkopf? That sounds a lot like ignorance...because you surely cant recreate the accuracy of his rides by hand either. I will assure you that. Theres so many little things that mathematically he put into the rides that creating them by hand is impossible.

    So Tyler didnt spend weeks perfecting those into his ride...so? Newton 2 has been out for days. Give some people some slack.

    And if people are going to start downrating for use of tools Im downrating for NOT using them. Geez. Didnt think it would ever come down to this but I should have seen it coming.
    • CommentAuthorPmLondon
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    There is no markdown for the use ot Newton in my 7.6 I merely stated what I found was not LOOKING right.

    Some points have been lost because I like to see a minimum of theming, every ride that I'm rating has at leat 0.5 points removed when it's the case, otherwise that would be unfair for those who add some scenery. Anything scoring higher than 9 has to have a wow factor, a Fun Fair ride wont do.
    • CommentAuthorExtraxyz
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    Posted By: RealYea...so with tools you cant create a classic Schwarzkopf? That sounds a lot like ignorance...


    I never said anything like that.. I <3 Tools and I've seen plenty of tool-made Schwarzkopfs that had the little details nailed down perfectly.. but Tyler's ride just isn't one of them.

    And I'm not downrating for use of tools nor do I see anyone in his ratings who does, they're downrating because the result of his use of tools is just not right. It doesn't mean that I want a Schwarzkopf-style ride to have jerks and straight banked pieces of track, it's fine with me if you give it a little personal twist (like he did with the Arrow style on Thunderbird) but a B&M-style curved drop is pushing the limits, not to mention the 'Just drag the roll-slider and see what happens'-dive loop entrance.
    • CommentAuthorTyler
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009 edited
     
    Screw it, I quit. Just not worth it. Good to see the old Coastersims elitism in full swing. Please remove my files from the exchange.
    • CommentAuthorReal
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    Your wording was terrible though. You said the use of tools ruined his ride...not the way the tools were used. Huge difference.

    Just saying...be careful. I know that were already going to see people rating "down" for the wrong reasons.
    • CommentAuthorTyler
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    I'd hoped that things have changed. My recreational time is better spent elsewhere.
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      CommentAuthorXpress
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    PmLondon: A good ride does NOT need to have theming of any sorts, even trees for that matter. Theming can be a way of covering up a 'less' than perfect track ;)

    Posted By: TylerI'd hoped that things have changed. My recreational time is better spent elsewhere.


    Just ignore him. Some people lack the 'be nice' gene ;)

    Also, guys, you will find it best to stay out of fighting with Real about NL, or coasters. Chances are, he's going to win the argument ;)
    • CommentAuthorPmLondon
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    This creation http://nolimits-exchange.com/coaster/276/crash relies on the surprise, this rating spoilt it.

    Rated 2 minutes and 1 second ago by Xpress
    Technical : 6.00, Adrenaline : 5.50, Originality : 5.00, Average : 5.50

    T: Well, the track wasn't the best. Lots of pumps all over, and the worst of it was in the corkscrews. Really, the only way to get smooth ones is to use elementary, the corkscrew wizard. Supports were lacking in some areas, well, all over, like in the first helix, and the bottom of the corkscrews as well as the last turn. You can use the prefab supports here- they were modeled after the corkscrew supports.

    A: Not very high. It felt like a boring corkscrew layout with both corkscrews just tossed in there. I think you could have done better with a longer layout. Corkscrews felt rough enough though. However, I will give you the credit for the suprise lift hill release, however you could just have made this into a shuttle coaster.

    O: Not very original with the layout. It was a simple corkscrew ride, and needed something more, like headchoppers, or something. Also, like I said you should have just turned this into a shuttle coaster, rather than using a complete circuit ;)
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      CommentAuthorXpress
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009 edited
     
    ^Really? You're really going to whine about a spoiled suprise? Who cares if I "spoiled" the suprise. It's JUST a ride. It's my personaly opinion of the ride, and you should find the rate to be valid. Get over it..

    Also, you spelled 'SPOILED" wrong.
    • CommentAuthorReal
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    Im just sayin watch how you word things. Id rather not see this great tool be chastized because it still takes a great deal of time and effort to create a ride with a correct feel and look. I just spent the better part of 2 entire days coming up with a Eurofighter that Im not totally pleased with the ending, but it was my first full coaster. A few things to work on but I got some shaping to look just how I wanted (Including a nice, round loop with no pumping and proper shaping from all angles)

    As for the crash rating...well PM, thats kinda how it goes. You cant prevent someone from rating and not talking about whatever "suprises" there are on a ride.
    • CommentAuthorbader
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    Most people do like to be surprised… so NO to spoilers
    sorry I dont want to pick on you Xpress but you also spelled "surprise" wrong. :P
    • CommentAuthorReal
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    Then dont read the ratings...But if the "ah hah" moment is so great or is, I need to comment on it. Or else when my rating doesnt reflect the correct score, it gets deleted.
    • CommentAuthorPmLondon
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2009
     
    I'm affraid I'm bound to make some spelling mistakes as I could write in French which is my first language but it wouldn't help on this occasion.

    The 4 previous ratings did care, there's more than creating the perfect track in NoLimits, imagining this track was a brilliant idea.
    • CommentAuthorbader
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009 edited
     
    You can always appreciate the "ah hah" moment without spelling it out

    Posted By: PmLondon there's more than creating the perfect track in NoLimits, imagining this track was a brilliant idea.


    I kind of agree with you here. The perfect track is not enough to make it a perfect ride experience. You need creativity, and that also should count in the overall rating.

    Posted By: Xpress... and the worst of it was in the corkscrews. Really, the only way to get smooth ones is to use elementary, the corkscrew wizard.

    I dont think people should be obligated to do something your way or otherwise you mark them down. I know you are entitled of you own opinion. Just don’t force it.
    • CommentAuthorReal
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009
     
    I disagree. Its a coastersim. Nothing I read about will dimish the effect if its done right. If reading about it spoils the coolness...it wasnt cool enough.
    • CommentAuthorbader
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009
     
    Posted By: Xpress.... you will find it best to stay out of fighting with Real about NL, or coasters. Chances are, he's going to win the argument ;)


    Well said :)
    • CommentAuthorReal
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009
     
    So, then, if I want my entire layout for my new ride a secret (and it is...no screens being released) then, Id expect no one to comment on any of the elements or its order, or theme. That way its fresh and new to everyone. Right?
    • CommentAuthorbader
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009
     
    No!
    Don't take it to the extreme... you know what I mean. Would you enjoy a movie like The Sixth Sense if you know the guy is dead before you watch it?
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      CommentAuthorXpress
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009
     
    ^Yep, pretty much.
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      CommentAuthorEd Boxer
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009
     
    A surprise does not have to be revealed to state an appreciation of its presence. Something like "Loved the surprise, it really raised your A and O scores" would work. That lets the designer know you liked the surprise, doesn't reveal the surprise, and whets the appetite of review readers to find out what the surprise is.
    • CommentAuthorbader
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009 edited
     
    Well... you may enjoy it but you will defenitly miss the WTH moment, which is the point of the whole movie by the way. back to topic
    Thank you Ed. take it from here :)
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    Posted By: DC High HeatShaping! Not that hard to spell, especially after corrected by someone else recently...


    Xpress: HOo carez how I speeL? Srsly..


    How can you constantly misspell words, say what you said in this quote, then call someone out (whose first language happens to not be English)? You keep making yourself sound like more of a jerk every day.

    Tyler, you're acting like a little kid. I don't understand how you want ratings as good as something say Real put out after 6 months of work, on a ride you made in less than 1 day with a program you've never used before? Your ride was very sloppy, and truthfully borderline terrible, and the more you try to say your nonexistant effort was, the more people will look for things that confirm their thoughts. You uploaded the ride to a site where people rate your work. How does it make someone 'elite' if they think other rides are better? If you choose to upload another ride and don't want any negative comments, write in the description that you just wanted to release for people to enjoy if they'd like, and ask that people do not write comments. There's no other fair way.
    • CommentAuthorReal
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009
     
    I had Sixth Sense figured out before they revealed it. Was the only way some of the stuff happened.

    But we arent watching movies, theyre roller coasters. But Im being serious, if I want my coaster, the entire thing to be surprise, then no one can discuss any elements or themeing in their ratings! its the same darn thing! Just like I couldnt discuss hints about the Sixth Sense that might give it away! Guess Ill have a lot of rating reports to hand out...
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    Cleaned : Please keep it on-topic guys. If you want to battle out your personal issues then please use the whispering system.

    -Mathew