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      CommentAuthornolimiters
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2017
     
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      CommentAuthorOlmisery
    • CommentTimeMay 2nd 2017
     
    That actually looks quite fun
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    For some reason, that concept just screams "Legoland" to me. I'd love to try one out someday!
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      CommentAuthorHafizBazzi
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2017
     
    It would be a great replacement for the Legoland sky ride (which was being taken apart last time I went).
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      CommentAuthorKingRCT3
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2017 edited
     
    The Unicoaster 2.0 is neat, although that layout does nothing more than the flat-ride version, really.

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    Ride Centerline has updated their website, and my oh my it's a gold mine!

    Here are all the beams for the supports of Eejanaika:



    And here is (a portion of) Extreme Rusher:



    A ride sequence of a S&S Combo tower:



    A failure chart for the chassis of the launched RMC train (*cough* Lightning Rod):



    The Chance train:





    The lift of Wildfire :



    A storage system:



    Brakes fins:



    RMC wooden trains:









    Finite Element Analysis:











    Vertical G-forces of Texas Tornado:



    Remember the safety roller-coaster NASA wanted to install on their launch pads? It was designed by Ride Centerline!







    NASA Emergency Egress System (with videos).

    And here they got a list of all the rides they were involved in.
    • CommentAuthorrct800
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2017 edited
     
    Thank you for researching these, KingRCT3. As an engineering student, they make me extremely happy :)
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      CommentAuthorride_op
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2017
     
    Gee, these would have been nice to have earlier. >:(

    -Ride_Op
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      CommentAuthorBBSpeed26
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2017
     
    NL2 NASA Emergency Egress Coaster confirmed.
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    Posted By: ride_opGee, these would have been nice to have earlier. >:(

    -Ride_Op


    RMC Trains confirmed?
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      CommentAuthordapalm
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2017
     
    Stress analysis in NL2 confirmed
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      CommentAuthorOlmisery
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2017
     
    Chance hyper GTX in NL2 confirmed
    • CommentAuthorDelay
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2017
     
    Wait, what?
    Posted By: ride_opGee, these would have been nice to have earlier. >:(

    RMC TRAINS CONFIRMED!!!
    unless Tom wants NASA's escape system in the program.
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    Obviously he was only trying to find the brake fin.

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    FINALLY! Glad they shared so much info!
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      CommentAuthorZergei
    • CommentTimeMay 3rd 2017
     
    This information could come in handy sometime in the future, as I somewhat religiously study coaster types when attempting to make them in NL2. Great find, and nice new site look!
    • CommentAuthorrct800
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2017
     
    Found this german Video about Wodan at Europa Park. Around the 40 second mark, you can see that they originally wanted to build a duelling GCI in the russian themed area, but decided against it due to time concerns and the complexity of the Project. Would have been pretty amazing!
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      CommentAuthorKingRCT3
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2017
     
    Here is a very cool video shot at Port Aventura, with footages from coasters including various measurement: g-forces, hertz (vibrations) and rotational speed.

    So we can see for instance that both Red Force and Furius Baco's' launches are around 1.5g, but Baco has an initial jerk of 1.7g and then the value decreased, while Red Force starts at about 1.2g but the value then increases all the way.

    The rotational speed gives us a value around 20 rpm for Furius' inline-twist, which translates to 120°/s.
    You can also examinate the shaping of a B&M corkscrew from that kind of info.
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      CommentAuthorOlmisery
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2017
     
    I'm using hertz to measure coaster roughness from now on.
    • CommentAuthorDelay
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2017
     
    ^You can't do that!
    SLCs would be at over 16,000! hz.
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    Woah that video is amazing. I loved the way the inversions looked with gyroscoping.
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      CommentAuthorKingRCT3
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2017 edited
     
    Awesome g-force graph for Mine Blower:

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      CommentAuthorKingRCT3
    • CommentTimeMay 29th 2017 edited
     
    I found that, but I don't know what it is. I mean, it's an Arrow/Chance Morgan hyper ; but is that official, for what park was it planned, etc. I have no clue. Does it ring a bell to someone?



    When you do a search by image on Google, you only find this drawing used to illustrate edgy teens quotes (like "life is a roller coaster"). There's even one being overwritten with Taylor Swift song lyrics. That is not helpful.

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    Dynamic Attractions patented their Tilt and drop element, as well as the side drop trick. The drawings are pretty cool.









    There's also the patent for the track, if you want to model it for NoLimits.
    • CommentAuthorBullero
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2017
     
    The v-shaped track with it's spread out supports looks amazing imo. Can't wait to actually ride a SFX coaster
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    Yeah King that Arrow layout was on some guy's website with a bunch of his coaster designs/drawings maybe like 15 years ago. It's not official. I don't know that the website exists anymore as I've only seen that specific picture since.
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      CommentAuthorKingRCT3
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2017 edited
     
    Thanks DC. It looked like a cool layout.

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    Oh, sorry if I post too much, but I just found out Great America was planning for 1998 a 60 meter tall Morgan hyper... featuring a station at mid-height and an elevator. It's worth mentionning, right?





    That's from this awesome post featuring all the concept-arts and thoughts that went into the development of this never built attraction (thanks to the neighbors). It's worth a look for the wacky theming(s) planned!

    I just discovered this Shane attic thread, and I think I'll have a ton to read the next few days!
    • CommentAuthorJAKool
    • CommentTimeMay 30th 2017
     
    Wow, that looks kind of awful.
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      CommentAuthorParadox
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2017 edited
     
    Yeah that's a horrible layout.
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      CommentAuthorKingRCT3
    • CommentTimeMay 31st 2017 edited
     
    That's really ugly and short for its size, yeah...

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    In their latest years, Arrow had developed a software called Coaster Vector Analysis (CVA).

    Posted By: ArrowArrow's Coaster Vector Analysis software program is used to analyze track layouts. Arrow's engineers use CVA as a tool to improve the overall ride experience. CVA provides engineers and designers with detailed track layout data. CVA generates the following types of data:

    Velocity
    Longitudinal Acceleration
    Lateral Acceleration
    Vertical Acceleration
    Resultant Acceleration
    Ride Duration
    Optimum Banking
    CVA can generate all data for the center, front, and trailing end of the vehicle or train. This data allows engineers to determine how different parts of a coaster are affected by a track layout.

    Source

    It was basically the g-force graph and the "No lats" button of NL2.

    Non related, but here was the factory mock-up for the Steeplechase, and it was very cute:





    These two bits of trivia are still from the wonderful Shane's Amusement Attic topic.
    • CommentAuthorBullero
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2017 edited
     
    I tried posting something from my phone, it did not go well.

    Just ignore this please ;)

    That steeplechase brochure was cool to see!
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      CommentAuthorKingRCT3
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2017 edited
     
    Posted By: KingRCT3Dynamic Attractions patented their Tilt and drop element, as well as the side drop trick. The drawings are pretty cool.


    I was wondering how the special track piece on the side drop would get back to position after the drop, and I'd guessed that there would be some kind of winch... Nada, it's actually launched back in place.

    There's a sneak peek at it during rollback testings in this video from Bloomberg TV. Jump at 1:36.
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    http://assets.towersplans.org/documents/531af48964ec8dfbf2000001/56953.pdf BEHOLD! Air plans!
    • CommentAuthorTheBeatles
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2017
     
    I leik wen de air plans fly tru de sky
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      CommentAuthorKingRCT3
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2017 edited
     
    Posted By: KingRCT3Taron g-forces according to the TÜV measurements:



    A fella took an aeronautic accelerometer on Taron along with a video, and synced the data!
    "Force G lon" is for longitudinal, it's the acceleration. Also, the positive G force is inverted.
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      CommentAuthorbestdani
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2017
     
    Can you ask him if he would mind to give access to the data?
    • CommentAuthorDelay
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2017
     
    Interesting to see that data outside of Nolimits!
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      CommentAuthorKingRCT3
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2017
     
    ^^ Onto what form? Spreadsheet? I can ask. :)

    But remember he took that from the front row, so you can't import the datas in FVD++ and make an instant-Taron. ;p
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      CommentAuthorbestdani
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2017 edited
     
    ^ for example or just CSV, plain text or whatever can be transformed rather easily. I just would like to do some more detailed analaysis on actual recorded coaster forces and his data looks very precise (not like some smartphone recordings and stuff).

    By the way I recently spotted this in a Documentary series - imho generally rather boring but with some interesting behind the scenes moments like this:
    http://i.imgur.com/DS9DM3H.jpg
    • CommentAuthorDelay
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2017
     
    It does look very precise, but like King already said, it's only the front data. A better approximation for the forces should be the average of the front-row-Gs and back-row-Gs.
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    After having ridden Taron about 25 times last week, I can tell you that there is a distinct difference in forces on both left and right sides too, especially lats.
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      CommentAuthorKingRCT3
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2017 edited
     
    Ok, I asked the guy, let's wait forhis answer. Although as it's a professional tool he used, I'm not sure he'll be willing to share the infos. We shall see, I hope so!

    ^^^ Wow it's actually awesome! We can also see interesting numbers on the left, like:
    Launch speed: 124,2km/h
    Max acceleration: 2.05g

    And the actual differences between the target (126km/h) and the real speed.
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      CommentAuthorelement 115
    • CommentTimeJul 4th 2017 edited
     
    2g acceleration from an lsm launch... damn

    EDIT: This is from Baco... Carry on folks.
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    About the acceleration on Taron based on King's post... Kinda surprised that the second launch (which people assumed to be the one that broke the record for fastest LSM acceleration) only reaches ~0.7 to 0.8G according to the accelerometer data, and how the first launch reaches a higher acceleration of around 1.1 to 1.2G.
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      CommentAuthorKingRCT3
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2017
     
    Posted By: bestdaniCan you ask him if he would mind to give access to the data?

    I asked him, and unfortunately it's impossible, sorry.
    The data can only be read by the software given with the 8000€ device he used, so he had to do these videos at his work... 3 minutes of video required 26 hours of processing, that's crazy.
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      CommentAuthorKingRCT3
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2017 edited
     
    Do you like Mack Rides? Yes you do. Here's Alpina Blitz for you:








    (There's the weight of each individual supports)

    Number of footers : 176
    Length : 713 mètres
    Length including storage : 800 mètres
    Width of track : 1060 mm
    Height of bi-tube track : 139,8 mm
    Height of tri-tube tracks : 1100 mm
    Height of quadri-tube track : 1200 mm
    Approx. max. negative g forces: -1.2g
    Number of track pieces : 225
    Track color : ral 5002
    Number of supports : 120
    Support color : ral 9023
    Total weight : 345 tonnes
    Weight of an empty train : 7000 kg
    Weight of an empty car: 2000 kg (lead) et 1660 kg (trailers)
    Motor: 400 kw

    Magnetic brakes: InTraSys Gmbh
    Lead Structural designer (?): Thorsten Köbele
    Centerline and structural analysis: Ing.-Büro Stengel GmbH
    Support fabrication: CSM steelstructures
    Magnetic brakes: InTraSys Gmbh
    PLC: EMIS ELECTRICS

    I hear you, YES the layout has been heavily stolen inspired by Piraten. In fact, Patrice Gélis (park owner) drew Alpina Blitz literally on top of Piraten:



    The story is that Nigloland was featured in a french TV documentary. The park owners were shown "buying" a coaster, after testing a few in Denmark (Lynet and Piraten). They really loved Piraten, and the sequence ended with the owners shaking the Intamin guy's hand, implying a purchase would follow... But that was for the TV only - they were asked to show how it works to buy a new ride, but that was not their intentio..
    Although, the enthusiasts we were were a bit gullible and hopefull, and we wanted this to be true. The owners did really enjoyed Piraten, too... So a few years later, they really considered it.
    But Nigloland didn't wanted to buy a clone. Patrice drew a custom layout to fit the park. They also went to Mack instead of Intamin for a few reasons: Good relationship between the two families ; ease to have spare parts and maintenance ; better comfort and larger guest acceptance.

    The park also asked for reversible motors for push tires in the station and transfert table, so they can put a faulty train out of the layout without sending it around one more time, if needed. It's pretty unique and uncommon. Nigloland often ask for extra things like that. On Donjon de l'Extrême (Funtime drop tower), harnesses have an extra thing other Funtime drop tower haven't (don't ask me what it is).

    A remarkable customisation on Alpina Blitz is the removable platform, again an idea from the park. It's there to be able to run the ride with one operator only (so he can check lap-bars on both sides, help people, etc).



    It's also an access for people in wheelchair:



    From this awesome article by CoastersWorld. Thanks again to Mathieu C. and Nigloland for all the infos and drawings!
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    ^ Thank you very much for posting this! Its very interesting!
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      CommentAuthorbestdani
    • CommentTimeJul 9th 2017 edited
     
    Posted By: KingRCT3
    Posted By: bestdaniCan you ask him if he would mind to give access to the data?
    I asked him, and unfortunately it's impossible, sorry.

    No problem, the reason is quite understandable.

    ^^ Very cool details you posted there, also thanks for translating the informations! Nigloland was on my ToDo list for this year. ;-)
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      CommentAuthorKingRCT3
    • CommentTime5 days ago
     
    Thanks to these masterplans from Energylandia (found on TPR), we got the layouts of three Vekoma clones:

    Junior Coaster / 335m:


    Suspended Family Coaster / 453m (Orkanen):


    SLC (689m Standard) (bonus: SBF spinning wild mouse):


    I wish they were in better quality to zoom on the layouts, but that's already a good start if you want to recreate any of these.